Could it be...?[[ghost plot cntd / Gareth's idea]]

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

Gareth had legged it out of the Hub. He had a strange feeling that this occurance could be connected to the well. though how he didn't know. He span around as he heard someone behind him. Probably just Owen. He sighed and waited...

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

((ooc: Sorry Rusty, but Owen has found himself a Ghost outside the hub.... He might follow in a second, or you might come back... I don't care...))

[Kally]

(OOC: can Karnie follow you... I am avoiding Jack =DD))

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

((OOC: yeah sure...I'll change it so he's just guessing it was Owen))

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

((ooc: I have Owen coming now to... So can they both be there? Karnie first then Owen show up?))

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

((OOC: I don't mind...just someone turn up))

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

((ooc: Ok I will))

Owen nearly ran from the water tower. He could not face Tosh, not know. What he had seen had rattled him more then he had ever thought. It was so real! It was like Katie had really been there and for a moment Owen believed that she was. It was so strange. Even though the doctor knew that she was dead it was like he didn't know that and that she could really be there. What if she was? What if what he had heard was true? What if this could really be... well... real? It sound insane but it seemed to be the only way to explain what had happened, why he had thought that it was really her. Or it might be some mental mind trick an alien was playing on them, but you never knew.

Owen soon saw Gareth and he school his expresion back to nuteral even though it was hard. He stopped a few feet away hoping that the dim light would his anything that he could not. "What you doinf running of like that?" he asked hoping that he was able to keep his voice steady and was surprised when he heard no shutter in it. "We share here at Torchwood not just run off thinking, 'I know what to do here! The h*** with everyone else!'" This time knowing that he could keep his voice even he was even able to though in some sarcasim.

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

Gareth looked at Owen as he ran to catch up with him. He almost cowered away, Owen's tone of voice angry.

I didn't run away Owen and I don't know what to do here. I want to ... see if theres a connection with this place. I know I could have said something and we could all go down there but to be honest it's somewhere I need to visit on my own first. Is that ok? Or should I now curtsey to you?

He tone grew angrier as he spoke and his fist curled up into a ball like he was preparing to hit the doctor, but it was more likely that he would punch himself for allowing the anger to build.

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

Owen found himself angered with Gareth's ruff words. He knew deep down that it was just the fact that neither seemed to like each other very much. Owen wasn't quite sure why he didn't like the other, he seemed perfectly fine at times but then he would say or do something that would just make the doctor angry. He did not tense at the sight of Gareth's hand pulling into a puncj because he was still not completely over what had happened and found it hard to him move at times. "Well if you had said that before to all of us then maybe we wouldn't be here right now. For all we knew this was to much for you and so you ran off..." his voice started to train off when he started to realize what he was saying and how it sounded so much like himself. He pushed that aside and finished, "Fou all we knew you weren't ever coming back." His voice was calmer now, and Owen was angery with himself becuase he was sure that he had let the fear he was still feeling through. He did not however make any move to leave.

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

Gareth shook his head slowly, disbelievingly.

Did you just coming storming out here after me Owen? Didn't you think to speak to the last person who saw me? I told Karnie that I would be back. I thought that when...if...you lot noticed I'd gone missing she would have chance to speak to you. But no, the doctor had to come running out throwing around accusations about people he doesn't understand...Owen...get lost.

With that Gareth turned around sharply and made his way towards where his car was parked, an old style black Renault Clio.

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

Owen almost forgot all about what had happened to him just a few minures ago. Gareth was out of line here. Maybe it was the hate he had gained for the other man that was making him miss the bigger picture. "You hold on!" He snapped and moved forward quickly grabbing Gareth's forearm with his good hand. "What just a s***ing moment! You think that this is all about some one making accusations about something he doesn't understand then you are d*** wrong! You have no f***ing idea who you are talking to, or the slitest thing about me!" his cold dead eyes lay right on the other man. His thoughts moved back to his life and why he had become who he was. Gareth knew none of this, but Owen had not want for him to. "Now what happens if you go out there, or your driving and you see that s***y little brother of yours again? What happens is you get in a car crash or you forget who you are and what your doing and you get yourself killed! Trust me when I say that I have no f***ing care if you get yourself killed. But I have seen enough deith and pain and know what it feels like to loss some one that I don't want to you put anyone else though that! So either I tag along with you, or a follow you? What will it be?"

[Kally]

Or you could both just shut up. said Karnessa her voice level and calm. If anyone should be angry, it's me.
She kept her face set in an annoyed look as the two men noticed her existence. Owen's face was an disbelieving 'how-can-you-be-angry-newbie' look and Gareth was pouting with indignance.
You know why I should be the angry one? she asked, then answered the rhetorical question: I can't help Tosh or Gwen or anyone because no-one in this team trusts me; Not a single person has cared to divulge any information about what this team actually does; I've been left completely in the dark about..well, everything; and my only source of information is what I find on clean-up duty. But you don't see me running around and complaining.
Karnie hadn't shouted, but she had made her point clearly.
Right. she said descisively looking at each man in turn, Now, I know you both saw something - a ghost or vision - but seeing as neither of you have decided to tell me what you saw so I can do my best to help, or at least comfort you I shall assume that it was of no importance.
Karnie took in the stunned looks on her colleagues faces and new full well that their visions had been important. She was just trying to get her point across.
you, she said, turning to Owen. Stop Swearing and keep your mouth shut for two seconds.
and you she added turning to Gareth, 'I'll be back later' isn't good enough, you shut up too.
Karnie paused and took a deep breath. She hadn't been that descisive or well, rude.. for a long time. It felt empowering.

God, it's like looking after five year olds. she added and turned back to Owen. Now, why does it say deceased on your file?

OOC: a rather spiffy entance to the thread I feel. Karnie got vereh bitchy. =D Sorry this is late, I forgot about the thread.

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

((OOC: still don't know what to post so i shall leave it to Owen))

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

Owen was taken aback at the sound of Karnie's voice he turned, still holding Gareth's arm tightly in his. She didn't sound that mad. It seemed was she trying to not yell, but in her words there was angry and as she spook the doctor could see why. She had been ignored, but not for the reasons she thought. The team was still trying to figure everything else out. She had fallen though the rift only a week ahead of herself but the weird thing was no one knew who she was. That was not normal. Maybe they should haev done more to help her, but that wasn't Owen's fault, that would have been Jack's the comanding offficer. Owen had been the one who tried to help her fit in, right? It had been he and gwen who took her on her first mission after saying that she could be part of Torchwood. But now that he thought about it he was just as at fault as anyone.

Owen was really starting to cool down now, after thinking about what Karnie had said and he let go of Gareth's arm and turned all the way around. Then, though, she took the cheap shot. She went on about the visions. His face began to burn with the pain of what he had been feeling not to long ago. The fear and the hurt that the ghost had put in him was mixed with anger as Karnie shouted in his face about it not being important. If he had been thinking straight he might have prossesed everything and not done what he was about to, but the thing was he wasn't thinking straight. "You want to know what I saw? DO YOU!" he shouted moving forward a few paces. "I'll tell you then! I saw her! Katie!" he felt his voice crake at the name. "My love! My feancee(sp?)! I loved her and then.... then she was killed! Killed by what? A f***ing alien! And Jack couldn't stop it! he let her die! I saw her!! I have been runninf from her for 4 years now! Running from the pain! Running from the fact that I left her! his voice softed at this next part and he felt himself becoming weak. " I prosimed that I wouldn't leave her and I did... I went and found myself someone else to take her spot. I let her die!"

[Kally]

Karnie was normally a very sensitive person, but with Owen up in her face and shouting, she was determined not to back down. She waited until he had finished his ran before saying quietly, You're not the only person who's lost someone.
Karnie held his stare, willing Owen to blink first. At the same time she spoke.
Garethm what happened to your brother? sha asked, trying not to sound intimidating or as if she was demanding the information. She guessed Owen was probably feeling pissed off so she added: and you, keep your mouth shut for five minutes.

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

Gareth had stayed in somewhat of a shocked silence at the tirades that were equally harsh no matter how much they differed in tone. As Owen spoke, Gareth placed a hand on the doctor's shoulder. It was never easy to lose someone.

When Karnie asked him about his brother, Gareeth simply shook his head, staying silent. He couldn't help the feeling that the discovery of what had caused his blackouts and the visions they were all seeing were somehow connected, and the only connection he could think of was the old well in the Brecon Beacons near his parents home.

((OOC: I had a much better post but my comp died on me and lost it))

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

Owen Backed down off of Karnie when she said nothing. He know if he could he would be crying at this moment. The thought of his lost love was deep with in him. The anger that he was also feeling was building, though. And what Karnie just shock his story off like it was an ever day thing he felt himself wanting to hite her and yell more, but he stopped himself and turned, oushing Gareth's hand off his shoulder. He did not do it like he didn't want it, or thay he was mad at Gareth still, but he just walked so that it slipped away. hoped the qental movement would try and make him seem hurt by everything. It was hard for him to know if theu know that or not because he couldn't cry and so instead he turned to anger to help get his point across.

Owen walked the few paces to the where Gareth's car was parked and sat down on the ((ooc:Gosh can't remember what there called!)) elevated ground (curb like) in front of the car. He sat so that his back was to the others and be barried his head in his hands. This was the only way that he could stop from hitting Karnie, or shouting at her so much that she was hurt for ever. As he sat he thought about everything. he had never really been mad at Gareth all that anger was from the fear and sadness that the ghost had brought apone him. Then Karnie comes and he shared what he had seen. He had shared how sad he was. He had said things that he hadn't even told Tosh, or Gwen, or Ianto. And what did she do? 'You're not the only person who's lost someone'! 'Yeah I think I know that, that you. I'm a doctor!' she was missing the main point though. Maybe if she had said, 'I'm sorry Owen.' or something that should that she was sorry or felt something for the Doctor, but she didn't, just turned to her little boyfriend. After all Owen's a big strong mean man why should we care about who he has lost, least just go to the one that I really care about, the simple sweet Gareth who I snogged on my first day of work!

[Gareth>><<Captain John]

Gareth's gaze followed Owen as he moved to sit on teh curb in front of his car. Sighing softly he made up his mind and strode purposefully to his car, flinging the driving-side door open and slidig into the seat. He push the keys in and turned it so that the engine flared into life. He leaned over and began to shut the door as he pulled his seat-beat down and prepared to set-off.

[Kally]

God, you two are as bad as each other. said Karnie exasperatedly. She wished that the team trusted her more, as it seemed they would refuse to tell her anything actually related to the questions she asked.
She was osrry for Owen and Gareth, knowing they must have seen something that shook them nearly out of their minds, but now Karnie was lost. Left out like a dog put outside for the night, while the party was still going on inside the house.
Knowing now she couldn;t apologise for getting angry without digging herself further into the hole she had got herself in, she sat by Owen, ignoring his dirty looks in her direction.
I know you just think I'm a heartless bitch, but I'm not, alright? This place, this team... it's wierd... it.. changes people. And it's even worse to be stuck halfway between the real world and Torchwood. Surely you were an untrusted newbie once?
Karnie paused, trying to guess the doctor's feeling and failing miserably.
I know what it's like to know you're losing someone you love and not be able to do anything about it.
Karnie stopped there, but wanted to say: 'My mother died of an anurism(sp?) in her brain... it made her hear and see things that weren;t there and forget things. I hated it becuase she'd be screaming constantly at what she saw and nobody could help because of a stupid surgery waiting list.' but she didn't. She felt that changing the subject onto her own loss would make her sound very self-centered, and she hadn;t spoken to anybody about her mother for a long time.

SHe had overstepped the line almost as much as Owen did in shouting at everyone. But there must be some reason he just got angry? and why did it say deceased on his file? Questions burned in Karnies mind that she longed to ask Owen, but she knew this was not the time.

This sounds like a sh*tty excuse, Owen, but I'm really sorry. WIll you forgive me for what I said?

[Owen Harper//Storm Skylar]

Owen glaced at Karnie a few times. And he heard Gareth getting into his car. At first he did nothing and just sat there listening to what karnie was saying. He thought about what she was saying and the tean, and knew that it was right. He wished he could bring her away from that one, but he really couldn't. Jack was the one who handled things like this. he could always talk to him. After a second he devised that that was what he would do. He also thought of the other newbies. Since he had joined there had been Ianto, (maybe Suzzie), Gwen, and Gareth. He remembered what it was like when they first joined but really couldn't see the same things in this as it was with Karnie. She fell through the rift, and they just joined, it was completely different.

At her mentioning that she had lost some one she loved he wondered who it was. He wondered if he had some how been part of it, or when it was, where it was. The same thing sounded a lot like his life. His loved on dieing and acting odd but the doctors not knowing what it was, even when Owen insisted they look for something else. The only difference seemed that she didn't die from something that normally happened to you when you get sick, she died from a possionous gas made from an alien.

As he thought about what he felt he figured that that miust be what everyone was fellingat the moment. They all had lost some one they really loved and now all those feeling were being through up at them making them all feel lost and alone. Like there was no one left in the world that really loved them. "I forgive you..." he said for the first time in a long time. His voice was soft and almost hourse. "It's just.... the pain that i felt all those years ago.... It started to shape me... then I was almost forced into Torchwood, after all Jack needed a medic and I was new in the world of aliens... so then along with the pain of lossing.... Katie... I was shaped but Torchwood.... It made me hard... amd I..." He still did not look at karnie. He let his words trail off then stood and grapped the door to Gareths car. He opened it and looked in. "Did you not listen to anything that I said before?" his voice was still soft but it was more of Owen's voice, "I said you can go off on your onw because you might get yourself hurt or killed because of some vision. I forbid you going anywhere alone!" He turned to Karnie. "Karnessesia Willows," He said not remembering Karnies full name so just making on up by what he remembered, "Go with him and make sure he stays alive."